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personal view is that Diamox should not be used as a substitute
for proper acclimatization. E-mail (de-spam the return address) if
you'd like to discuss this in more detail.
I've had personal
experience of using Diamox whilst in the Caucasus, on an trip up
Mt. Elbrus.
Whilst several other members of the expedition suffered from varying
degrees of altitude-induced headaches (at altitudes upto 18,500ft), I
had no problems and found them useful. As for side-effects, the
classic is a tingling, pins and needles type feeling in your fingertips.
This seemed to be with me for most of the time but wasn't so much of a
problem that I had to stop taking them. Another useful tip is to
dissolve vitamin C tablets in your drinking water at altitude as it can
help maintain your body's natural pH. which can be upset at altitude and
lead to problems.
A friend and I went on a trek to Nepal in September 1999, with the
intention of climbing Imja Tse (Island Peak) which is just over 6,100m.
My mate took Diamox, I didn't. We took the walk in at a steady
pace, and used the old 'rule of thumb' walk high, sleep low, and
moderate the gain in height.
Any how, on the walk in, I suffered with mild headaches, which after
rest usually cleared, my mate had no ill effects at all. At about 6,000m
high on Imja Tse, my mate had an horrendous headache and was showing all
the early signs of HACE, I on the other hand was totally comfortable
with the altitude and could have carried on.
The weather turned, and another member of the team began to feel unwell
(he was also taking Diamox), so we decided to retreat.
Whether this says anything about Diamox, I don't know, but in my
opinion you can't beat taking your time, and building into your schedule
extra days, which will allow you to acclimatize properly.
If I were going again, I don't think that I would bother with Diamox,
but I would extend the length of time that I spent on the walk in
I used it on a trip to Nepal when we only went to about 5,000 metres,
mainly to counter bad headaches that I was getting - side effects were,
as I recall, an increased desire to pee regularly (which is a sign of
good acclimatisation normally anyway), and that was about it.
The second time I went to Nepal was to climb Mera Peak (6,470m ish
depending on which maps you believe). I didn't take any Diamox
that time, took it steadily and had very few problems at all except for
one day when I overdid it and had a disgusting headache on the walk in
(crossing a pass at about 5,000m), and on pre-summit day, when I had
headache, inappetance and nausea camping at 5,700m. Throwing up over my
wife's boots makes an entertaining story anyway!
Personally, I think Diamox may have some use at suppressing
symptoms of altitude sickness over a short period, but shouldn't be used
as a matter of course
take 125 mg twice a day before you climb up
there will not be severe side effects, but you will sleep better and
will not have headache
Pack it but don't use it!
It makes most people pee like crazy...
But I hate taking pills anyway...
They say its only effective once you have been taking it for about 24 to
48hrs. This means it is not effective as an immediate "relieve
altitude sickness symptoms" fix. Either take it for extended
periods or not at all.
It is truly amazing how a small altitude drop can relieve symptoms - I
only got bad headache once but dropping 50m did the trick
Did Kilimanjaro recently (just under 20,000 ft). Some folk used
Diamox, others didn't, it didn't seem to affect the outcome as much
as previous mountaineering experience and mental attitude (i.e
determination to get to the top dispite headaches). I suspect some
headaches were just dehydration/effects of sun not altitude sickness in
which case Diamox
won't help anyway. My GP who'd done Kili himself suggested take it but
only use it if things get bad - I assume from this it must have some
effect even if you only take it at the last minute. On the whole more
Americans seemed to be taking it that others - I think this is probably
just s differenet attitude to pill popping.
We always take Diamox along when going to altitude, but we keep it
only for emergency use, rather than taking it as a prophylactic. Our
attitude is that if you follow the rules of acclimatisation, then you
shouldn't need any artificial help from Diamox. If you take Diamox, you
can still get AMS (Acute Mountain Sickness). If you get AMS whilst using
Diamox then you have already used up the possibility of using it as a
cure!
If you get mild symptoms of AMS you should stay put and not ascend. If
the symptoms get worse you should descend without delay. In the scenario
where you are unable to descend, (snowed-in, too dangerous at night,
etc), then Diamox can be useful to tide you over until descent is
possible. Make no mistake, AMS is potentially a killer, and much worse
than pins and needles from Diamox.
My advice, and this is based on many years of experience, would be as
follows: Read up on AMS, so that you fully understand what is going on
with your body. The subject is actually quite interesting, and you will
be much more confident in recognising, and dealing with symptoms. Most
Nepal trekking books have a chapter on the subject. Steven Bezruchka's
trekking book has a particularly good one. Follow the rules, and keep
your Diamox for emergencies. You are supposed to be having fun, not
putting your life at risk.
We have never had to use our Diamox on ourselves, but have had to give
it to others on several occasions (my wife is a Doctor). We have seen
many people suffer from AMS, and sadly seen a few people die from it.
The key is to give yourself time to acclimatise, and keep yourself well
hydrated, by drinking large amounts of fluids. You should be peeing
regularly, and your urine should be light, and not dark in colour.
AMS is not something to mess with, and taking Diamox according to
some folklore regime doesn't help.
we used diamox on our last trip to nepal cos work considerations
meant there was little time to acclomatise. we galloped round the
annapura circuit including thorung la in nine days with no trubble at
all pins and needles just helped to confirm fingers were still there.
Personally I don't use the stuff - tried it once - and haven't have
problems, but I suggest taking it along in case he/she is having
problems, though even using Diamox, you shouldn't continue to ascend
with AMS symptoms. Also vital to drink loads to compensate for the
diuretic effects, though, of course, you should do this at altitude
anyway.
The clinical trials indicate it should be used as a preventative
measure, NOT as a cure. You start taking it 24-48 hours BEFORE hitting
altitude. Read the manufacturer's instruction sheet, or ask your doctor
to copy the pages out of the Physicians Desk Reference Manual.
There have been several posts about using Diamox, which is the trade
name for acetozolimide (I am sure it is not spelled correctly) which is
a carbonic anahydrase inhibitor. Diamox is normally used a renal
diuretic and in normal conditions will make you piss like a race horse
as a friend of mine says - this is a serious side effect as dehydration
will make AMS worse.
Other side effects are minor like tingling in the extremities and lips.
(For some a major side effect is that is makes beer taste funny - a very
good enough reason not to use it ;-)).
I have used diamox, several times, but usually only for rapid ascents of
more than 10,000 feet in a day. You are better off going slowly and
letting your body acclimate on its own and taking diamox along just in
case.
If you are planning on using Diamox - make sure you try it at base
level first - the side effects vary vastly from person to person.
Although the side-effects are listed as "tingling extremeties" - I found
that I had a greater reaction with the whole of my arms and upper torso
being affected.
First of all you don't need Diamox to go up Mt. Shasta (14, 162 ft.)
by the time the shit is working on you you've probably gone home. Diamox
is good for "High" Altitude, though there are side effects. I spent a
week at close to 20,000 ft. and we ran out of Diamox before we even got
that high, there were two of us and we suffered no ill affects from the
altitude. In fact we both felt better without it because we were not
tingling all the damn time, which can get annoying stuck in your tent in
a godless storm for 7 days. Good Acclimatization is all that is
necessary. Hydration, climbing high, sleeping low, rest days, etc.
I have used Diamox on several occasions. I usually find that within a
few hours of taking it I'm pissing like crazy and getting tingling
sensations in my extremities. I was under the impression that Diamox was
a diuretic and prevented edema (pulmanory and cerebral) by draining
fluids from your body. Hence it appeared to me that it was working very
quickly.
According to "Medicine for Mountianeering", Diamox reduces the
severity of symptoms (AMS) in individuals ascending from Sea level to
12,000-14,000 feet without the proper time for acclimitization.
Additionally, it promotes acclimitization. No significant effect has
been shown for HAPE. Preventitive dose is 250mg orally every 12 hours
one to two days prior to ascent, continuing for three to five days after
arrival at altitude.
They seem to work ok but they do dehydrate you, so you are up peeing
all night, and they cause pins and needles in the extremities. I stopped
taking them on the third day (ie I'd taken 5 - morning, night, morning,
night, morning) because the pins and needles in my face were bugging me.
Also after 3 days high I was acclimatised enough to deal without them.
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